Sounds like most of these cases were off-body carry. Still no issues except an occasional FTF as I play with ammo loads and seating depths. It has not yet responded to the latest legal filing, and didnt respond to a request for comment. . Attorney Bagnell held up the law enforcement officers he represents as examples of people who are highly trained in carrying and using firearms. So what's left? Charlton, headquartered in Victoria, B.C., for comment on its original story, but neither responded. It sure wasnt her fault though, because she was flooring the. Not only is it now the designated sidearm of all branches of the U.S. military, there are over a million of them in civilian hands. Where is this lightning striking twice? Yes, swapped with my 9mm compact. Last year, Sig Sauer settled a class-action lawsuit that alleged design defects in the P320. Zimmerman said he is confident his plaintiffs will prevail in the lawsuit filed this week. You said you don't have the problem with any of your other kits. You would think that extractor steel would be hardened and heat treated well enough to withstand steel case ammunition, if in fact it was damaged by my use of that ammo. NO, SIG has a problem that they would rather fight in court. I sent thousands of these rounds through Glocks, 1911s, 2011, PCC, Tanfo Stock 2. with no issues. You did get to sit and watch it with him, which leads to a serious question. Jim. Every weekend guns blow up running high pressure calibers like 9mm Luger loaded with super fast powders that are meant for low pressure cartridges like .45. Todd started as a news correspondent with NHPR in 2009. Having it as the ONLY trigger pull the weapon has seems (to me) clearly dangerous. If they recruit smart cops, they wont have cops who will act against their political opponents outside of the constitution. Tomac. Welcome aboard. His haste to avoid the embarrassment of his gun being seen on the floor turned the incident from a wardrobe malfunction (accidental exposure of a concealed weapon, probably just a reprimand from the OPR) into a negligent discharge (the gun being fired led to him personally getting fired!). But I just had a case blowout this afternoon. Not only is it now the designated sidearm of all branches of the U.S. military, there are over a million of them in civilian hands. SIG just cannot seem to make a striker fired pistol that doesnt have issues. Back in 2017, SIG instituted a voluntary upgrade program to replace the original production triggers with new enhanced triggers designed to fix the issue that we and others observed when the pistols were dropped onto hard surfaces. The Nightline segment includes an interview with Major Peter Villani, an expert (paid) witness for Hilton. The weapons are currently on the shelf and the soldiers have returned to using their older model SIG P226s. I would have recommended what you said you already tried, swapping extractors with one that is know to be good. Watching all these Glock fan boys drool over these lawsuits in their tribal brand-lust is like watching the talking heads on CNN announcing Trump lost the 2020 election. It was expensive. In this version, Bridge City Officer Brittany Hilton tells her story of what she says happened when her P320 discharged as she was carrying it in her purse in what appears to be a SERPA holster (which has had its own problems, but thats another story). Fiocchi worked flawlessly, on the blazer had fte every fifth round or so. When Villani was asked for his opinion of SIG Sauer, he said, I carry SIGs, I own SIGs, I just dont own a 320nor would I ever. When Scott asked Villani what he found when he took a P320 apart, he said, I thought Wow, they need to do their homework, they need to fix this gun.. yes. Its interesting that ABC chose to leave that point out of one of their reports. Yes (7) Inspected the extractor? Whether or not the suits have merit. It that does not work, I will either send it back to Sig or ditch the gun and go back to Glock or Smith & Wesson for a striker fired handgun. , 54 people all shooting themselves. Someone is going to read this thread and be bewildered. I have no idea. He said hes a gun owner and a concealed carry permit holder. It has nothing to do with Glock. The use of a modified [SIG] P226 holster created an unsafe condition by allowing a foreign object to enter the holster, causing the unintended discharge.. there is no better. But were way past the days of major league, internationally known gunmakers turning out complete crap, selling it and the public living with it. Press J to jump to the feed. The Glocks lack of a manual safety has caused untold thousands of needless cripplings and death. So, I have a new p320 build.-New Sig Frame-New Norsso Slide-New PMM Barrel-New Sig Recoil Spring Assembly-Re-using firing pin, trigger group, extractor/spring out of my well-used P320 X-Five . 1.A rush to market, and as usual the blind greed of the gun companies who no longer test pistols before marketing them think it is cheaper (so the idiots think) to let the public test them. Look at the photos g macposted of the barrel and factory ammo shot in that barrel. Just because someone shoots hyper-unrealistic 3 gun competition, subscribes to Recoil magazine and routinely watches their fave rave YouTube cult of personality channel shill for the latest company that paid him off doesnt make them a [emailprotected]$$. Sigs suck and my Glock is awesome!. a. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Third, Glock has had problems, too. SIG Sauer, a German weapons maker with its U.S. headquarters in Newington, N.H., issued a statement Friday in response to a CBC News report earlier this week that revealed the Nov. 5, 2020, incident and the fact the weapon, the SIG P320, had been withdrawn from service while the military conducts an investigation. Sig P320 Extractor Problems, www.SigForum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/150601935/m/7630095024?r=7630095024#7630095024. Fair enough. They cant even make claim to doing a twice a year qual. They passed every state and national drop test requirement out there. It did not originally have this. As to prong 2, there is a considerable difference between the mechanism of a 320 and, say, ones basic Glock, in that a 320 is fully cocked, whereas a Glock is half-cocked until the trigger is fully depressed, with the striker remaining locked by the striker safety plunger until that is released by a cam on the trigger bar. If it fails, you're kind of screwed. Sometimes in front, straight back, just barely falling out and down, and even to the LEFT. Sig makes a damn fine weapon and theres nothing wrong with it. who sells them? congrats. Its difficult to believe thats a coincidence. I guess none got her the attention she wanted and a national coverage so she went in for the bang. I'm hoping this was a fluke due to a really weak casing - if anyone has any other thoughts please share. In fact, I dont own ANY striker fired polymer pistol. If its not legal momentum, it would have to be some other mechanism of failure.. Yaaay! My trust for Sig stopped after they produced the beloved Sig556xi Russian. It was the same sort of progressively worsening extraction issues you describe. You can post now and register later. Again, these are examples the plaintiff in this case is using to support his claim that the P320 is prone to un-commanded discharges.. Seems a bit apologetic to me. He points to it in the video. I continue to bet my life on them. As they should. Includes: -Extractor-Extractor Pin-Extractor spring The company also recently successfully blocked a proposed class action lawsuit that centered on financial harm for P320 owners. My friend's 320 rx pictures below, out of battery firing, barrel appears to be short chambered, not enough case supportsee pix belowSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. In a straight up Glock vs. Sig battle, the United States Marines chose Sig, and that was AFTER watching the P320 perform for four years. Either the gun is defective or its not. At least the Gorilla is still evolving while the Far Right proved to be an evolutionary dead end, one of natures mistakes. But I can't depend on it for competition the way it is, so I guess that's what I'm going to have to do. Plastic crap! So I give a ton of credit to Shatner for reading the reality of what it was and in essence, saving it. I brought a box of fiocchi and a box of blazer ammo. The lawsuit also includes two members of the Milwaukee Police Department, Adam Maritato and Robert Parks, who were involved in an alleged drop fire incident in July 2020. ), and the gun fell out of his pocket. If you can make the trigger move backwards, all bets are off. Note also that ABC didnt provide any context for the number of suits filed against SIG. The Military versions of the P320 are designated the M17 and the M18. The problem with Sig is with their polymer pistols. No Warp core, just a quantum singularity, The engine was basically a dorm fridge. While you are at it swap extractor springs and rods as well. Theyve also been adopted as duty guns by law enforcement agencies across the country. In stock. While good firearms training and practices among law enforcement officers is certainly the case much of the time, weve seen far too many instances over the years of un-safe or downright dangerous practices by allegedly highly trained individuals to apply that kind of blanket endorsement to all cops or alphabet agency employees. That prompted Sig Sauer to issue what it called a voluntary upgrade of the weapon, which included hardware changes to the trigger and striker. 2) The p320 does have a half cocked notch. Period. It was not a double charge, but it did blow out the extractor. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/dea-agent-lee-paige-still-wont-go-away/. A full-length external extractor will measure greater than 1 inch. LOL! It alleges that Walter Collette, Jr., a police officer with the Somerville (Mass.) Thanks for reading. In 2017, a prominent online gun shop pulled the P320 from its shelves, citing its concern that the weapon could fire if dropped from the wrong angle. But breaking news here, skippy. I can say we are aware of the statement released by SIG SAUER, said Maj. Amber Bineau. Both FCUs work with all of the other kits / calibers. But when you're running at the raggedy edge, when you're running well into or over +P -- as many people do with super fast powders and super heavy bullets, trying to chase down the holy grail of soft felt recoil -- when you're at that raggedy edge, it doesn't take a double-charge for a catastrophic failure. Yes, its reliable, but no more so than most other major brands well known models. UPDATE: 7-6-16 So, received my P320 9F back from Sig Sauer. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. Do you have an FFL closer to you than the FedEx hub? I wouldnt be surprised if she did it intentionally, she clearly suffers from a serious case of media whoring. These lawsuits ARE about SIG making defective weapons. The U.S. manufacturer went a step further in its statement Friday, stating without evidence or attribution, that the timing of the article was intended to undercut its chances in the federal governments upcoming bid to replace all of the handguns in both the military and RCMP. Had it for 1 hour and had to send it back to Sig! It was one of the first ones and was sent back as a voluntary upgrade. Features & Specifications of SIG P320 X5 Legion: SIG P320 X5 Legion I agree. It nicely describes what has to happen in a striker-fired P320 for an un-commanded discharge to happen as the plaintiffs have claimed. 3 disaster is true and if it is Sig will go all out to cover it up if it was. The problem affecting the original P320 is what the gun industry calls an "unintended discharge," or as one lawsuit against Sig Sauer explains: "The weapon fires without a trigger pull.". My load (135 gr RMR JFP over 3.8gr A#2) is fairly mild and does not swell the back end of the case like the pics above but they will grow about .002"-.004". TACTICALRELOAD-The 4 to 6 week time frame was given to me by customer service rep. Maybe they could help you out with shipping it back without the long drive. It takes time for any new platform to work the kinks out. Pasted as rich text. To give you an example of early self-propelled lawn mowers if you lost your grip on the handles the mower would not shut off and it would take off on its own right down the street all by itself. The real tell is that of all the cases, most are cops of some kind. But when you set a gun down on a table, and the damn thing goes off seconds after you let go, that sounds like a defective gun. But as Officer Hilton says, There is no way anything could have gotten into my purseinto the trigger guard and pulled that trigger., This ABC report includes an interview with Joshua Harrison, a firearms expert hired by the network to examine the P320s design and give his opinion of its safety. I've lost a little faith in my EDC. I dont consider the drop-bang issue a failure and Sigs response was actually above any real need, except to perhaps deflect any easy wins for slime ambulance chasers I get that. For you X5 users, what powder and bullet set-up are you using to keep pressures low? I can say one thing for sure, the X on the side of the my is about is welcoming to me as grip zone was. Hello perpetrators, Lee Paige is clearly the gift that keeps on giving though our buddy Hunter Biden is a close second! The Milwaukee police department has had 3 incidents of the Sig discharging while being in a holster sitting in a patrol car in 2023. All those customers who paid $1600 now had a limited function paper weight. Also, N320/147g or N310/165g at125-130 pf are probably a good deal lower pressure than factory +P or +P+ loads, which should be safe to shoot in these guns. But Im observant enough to see the same voices that said in 1985 that This new fangled Glock is a just a plastic toy! Oh, if you another thread reader asking Wheres the Sig/Glock bashing? But that doesn't excuse poor design and quality control. SIG brought us into their testing facility today and demonstrated that three upgraded P320s were all functional and fired properly. The clearest memory I have about the many people experiencing post-upgrade discharges is a cop who set his P320 on a table, and several seconds after letting go, IT DISCHARGED ON ITS OWN! As for Seals they have their own contract with Glock but can carry anything they want. A holstered base P320 allegedly had a mysterious accidental discharge without pulling the trigger. PublishedDecember 2, 2022 at 2:44 PM EST. They said for me to get warranty service, I would have to send the entire gun in. If these same folks were around in the 80s and got their way, no one today would know what a Glock was. The weapon had a history of going off unexpectedly when it was dropped at a certain angle. . Fired case is extracted about a quarter of an inch. Yea, I already have the RA and the Fedex shipping label. He holds a masters degree in public administration from Columbia University. Weird how that might happen. Just ordered all new parts from Top Gun Supply. I have a 2015 born sc that has almost 2k rounds thru it & not one fte has occurred. Then after just three years without telling anyone they stopped all production including extra parts. The P320 should be scrapped and SIG Sauer USA should redesign a new pistol around the striker firing mechanism instead of just retrofitting a hammer fired pistol (P250). The round went downrange so nobody was hurt. The gun ran fine with brass, but as soon as I loaded her up with Tulammo, it began to choke bad again. So your fanboy perjorative falls not only flat but false. She has the p320 9fs that has been RMR with a delta point. You cannot paste images directly. hate to tell you this but most lawnmowers with the handle bar stop get tied down. Bagnell also represented Virginia Sheriffs Deputy Marcie Vadnais who sued SIG when she said her P320 went off on its own when she was removing the weapon from her belt. Vadnais was featured in the Nightline version of ABCs report. Using an example from the first prong, we legitimately fault the user who shot himself in the palm, rightfully asking why in the WORLD his palm was in front of the muzzle when he set the gun down. This part is a high-quality replacement internal extractor for specific versions of the P220 and most X5 models. Then without any extra effort, the normal trigger pull caused the tab on the drop safety to sheer off. RAYZ-When I LAMR I load a full mag (11 rounds in a factory 17 or 21 round mag) then cycle the slide. My bet would be that someone had a fully loaded gun in a gym bag and a cloth or rag snagged the trigger. Stoppage occurs any where from the 3rd round to the 10th round. Ironic that the trendsetters of yesteryear are trying to tear down the innovator of today because its Not perfected yet! and the Design isnt worked out!. It has worked flawlessly. Upload or insert images from URL. Every weekend guns blow up running high pressure calibers like 9mm Luger loaded with super fast powders that are meant for low pressure cartridges like .45. Thanks. He had to be reprimanded by the range officer twice for unsafe handling of his pistol. The current allegations, then, are different, claiming that the P320 is prone to un-commanded discharges.. World renowned and the choice for many of the premier global military, law enforcement and commercial users. I have had some self induced issues with feel since trying to go full length guide rod, 15# 1911 spring and Apex trigger. On the other hand, would we also condemn him for violating Rule 2 if the bullet had travelled through his outside wall, entered the adjacent house, and killed a resident thereof, or would we maybe, just maybe, place some blame on the manufacturer who created the pistol? The modular SIG P320 is among the most widely-owned handguns on the planet. Google Keith Slatowski, is he lying also? Thanks. No, it doesnt. Personally they should have gone with the Glock, its not for me but is a proven gun. I have been purchasing and using Sig firearms exclusively for over 40 years. If the P320 was so great then why did special forces go to the Glock 19? So I see this asa manufacturer issue not an ammo issue. A forum community dedicated to SIG Sauer Pistols and SIG Sauer Rifles owners and enthusiasts. Have you ever noticed that big trouble usually comes in groups of 3. Anyway there was one good thing to come from those movies, The USS Vengeance. to docile, too subtle, to contextual. You couldnt ask questions. Cars have so many electronics these days, who knows what could have gone wrong! Well today was a great day for the wife as she had zero malfunctions with her gun! If the gangster greed monger criminal Capitalvanians in the gun industry had their products under the jurisdiction of the consumer safety administration all the newer striker fired guns would never have been allowed on the market unless they had manual safeties and a safe take down system. The extractor is offered only as part of a comprehensive reliability upgrade service. Funny how that works. At the risk of sounding superstitious lets review Sigs latest turd pistol. Going on Sigs reputation I bought a P320. Quite frankly, a sizable number of the LEOs that go there, would benefit from a Gun Safety 101 class. Yes. It was at that point that I knew the gun had a design flaw. First, clearing a loaded firearm with a finger over the muzzle doesnt exhibit even cursory adherence to the Four Rules. Really? Thank yall for your input. Why you and I are arguing over a gun that neither owns or will own, BrianEnos.com Once SIG SAUER receives your P320 pistol, they will apply the upgrades, test it, and then return it to you free of charge. I could just purchase another 9F kit and keep the malfunctioning kit for parts or send it in for repair and sell it when it gets back to recoup some of the costs. Clients such as law enforcement officers whose negligent discharges could result in their being disciplined or fired unless it can be proven that the gun was at fault. SIG Sauer factory Extractor Pin for the P320. Any gun, ANY GUN, that goes off as many times as the Sig P320 has and has been documented without a trigger being pulled is FAR FAR FAR from being a great gun. The claimed mode of failure was that the tab on the drop safety that interferes with the striker movement had been sheered off and stopped being a drop safety. I'll give it a chance to redeeme itself and see how that works out. Wont last!. A few Warbirds decloaking would make me very nervous if it wasnt sci-fi fantasy. After some research, it appears the P320 Compact 9mm (and only the P320 Compact 9mm) has a known problem w/all weights of Blazer Brass. ! while being accompanied by some form of obvious stupidity like putting an unholstered gun in a gym bag with other stuff. Nope. How many times does a pistol have to malfunction before you blame it? The American manufacturer of the new pistols belonging to Canadas special forces claims the soldier wounded in an accidental discharge last fall was using the wrong holster for the weapon. Going to have to feed it some more ammo this weekend to see if the problem happens again. I have read on forums where the factory swapped the extractor and made another change to add more tension on it. To put it simply, they are expensive cheaply made junk. Sig fanboys are almost as bad as Glock fanboys. Anyway around here they do. People who know how to handle guns prudently and safely. Sig actually states to never use steel casing ammo. Same results. The second version emphasized the upgrade to fix the drop safety issue and notes that Harrison believes that problem has been fixed. Powered by Invision Community. Now when you lose your grip on lawn mowers or snow blowers they will not keep travelling foreword all by themselves. But just the same- a gun going off from momentum? And the idea some random comment section P320 hater thinks theyre smarter & more knowledgeable than the Army, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard and Marine Corp combined regarding military pistol selection is just freaking laughable! The gun has a total of less then 500 rounds through it. They received it on 1/10/2018. Its pathetic how often these legal stunts work. You have entered an incorrect email address! The Moron engineer who decided to put that on the Glock should have been hung by his dirty balls. Only problem is with the 9F Kit. The best take on this subject is by the author himself: this is about slime lawyers looking to build a national narrative and get a few wins in, so they can more easily get the next win and the next one, the next one and so on. The guys at the LGS saw only one broken striker but it confirmed what the manager who had the P320 go off and my thoughts. A lot like carrying a cocked and locked 1911 but with the safety off. In 2020, the agent, who is a former marine, was doing his routine training with the P320. SATIN GOLD | Matte TiN. Fine. And many departments across the country have had to lower their standards for passing qualifications just to be able to hire on and keep officers. 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